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Can anyone tell me where can i find tips for getting great heavy sound guitars ... or if you guys know some tips about it ... thank you ...

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21.10.22 - 18:02:08
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by heavy I am going to read into this as you are recording a hard rock project? You might try placing a SM57 either directly off the cone of one of the speakers in the amp or about 3 inches back, and then take a large diaphram condenser and place about 6-9ft. back in order to allow the sound waves to develop a little. Once you have the two mics sounding the way you like check for phasing and play your track. You can always layer another overdub of the track to phatten it up as many times as you like also which builds a wall of sound. The project handbook also has a million and one tips in there that are great! go with your ears to see what sounds best. its all about getting the sound you want from your guitar and amp before you even setup a microphone also. goodluck

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21.10.22 - 18:11:28
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Agreed to the above, but I try and get 2 or more amps involved as well. Split the signal properly. Try and have the muso in the control room and make some noise as well! Keep the amp tones a little bit different, and blend them to taste. For really heavy stuff, I've found one dirtier than is needed and one cleaner than needed can work well. Same mic ideas tho. Maybe have the large diaphragm up at the amp as well. It picks up the air movements of the cone there. I like that . I haven't tried it away from the amp for a while. the Studio I'm in now has a dry-er room though, but be worth a go. Iain

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21.10.22 - 18:20:52
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Angelo, There are some great threads on the DUC on this topic. You can start with this one from several years ago (the info still applies) You can try an "All Forums" search over the last 5 years with any post from "Andy Sneap" and this will definitely bring up some great info on getting great heavy guitars into ProTools. Although I've never been a Amp plugin fan the new Waves/PRS software/hardware is looking VERY interesting. Check it out at Best of Luck!

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21.10.22 - 18:24:55
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One of those would be the best way to do it I guess. Haven't used one mind you, it's the first result from a google for "guitar splitter". What I forgot to add to my previous post is that I also take a DI feed for amp farm as well. We use an Avalon U5 in the control room, and take a passive split from that to the live room. I've actually had to make a bit of a bodger to get this done and use one of the headphone lines to do so. I've got an unbalanced male to balanced female 1/4" cable that meets a balanced male to female 1/4" line on our snake. I then have a couple of balanced to unbalanced 1/4" jack lines that I connect in the live room. If I'm using more than one amp, I use our passive headphone splitter box. (If I remember correctly, It's just 6 parallel outputs of the input). It's not perfect, but it works. and it goes through the balanced and unbalanced cable stages properly. My concern when I tried it was that the mic line on the snake wouldn't have handled the instrument level signal well, but it seems OK, and that the headphone splitter box wouldn't work. But it does. A studio I worked in years ago had a box called a disseiver (sp?). it had 4 inputs, each with 4 outputs. All the outputs had ground lift and polarity flip switches. There was no gain stage though. That's what I would like to get for the studio I'm in now, but we record so little with amps that it's not really a worthwhile investment when we have a workaround. HTH, Iain

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21.10.22 - 18:28:20
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If you have the time to go thru this 45 page thread, I suggest you do. He is a good friend of mine.

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21.10.22 - 18:38:54
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